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Post by Dickies on Apr 7, 2009 23:51:50 GMT -5
Per the request of this baby... why dont you start a boxing thread first
boxing > mma I bring you... ***THE BOXING THREAD*** Here is the first question for discussion... and please keep in mind that I have absolutely zero knowledge when it comes to the actual innards and workings of the sport, but... * If you actually how how to box (the way Phil was doing it in the MTV2 /Anvil youtubes), do you have a better chance at being able to kick someone's ass who is bigger than you? More detail: Like, say you're out at a bar, and some dude who is a little bigger than you picks a fight and wants to fuck you up... He doesn't know how to box at all.. he just [thinks he] knows how to throw haymakers... could I possibly walk away the victor that night? Discuss... PS- Villain: just kidding about the "baby" thing. All in good fun. Please don't try to box me (yet). PPS- Villain: seriously just kidding about the baby thing. PPPS- 50 bucks says Phil lurks this thread (Phil in his head after reading this: "What the fuck does 'llllLLURKING' mean? These people...) and gives an answer (fingers crossed!).
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Post by jonahcarden on Apr 8, 2009 0:41:30 GMT -5
I think that Mike Tyson's Punch Out is the great fuckin game ever. If that counts for anything. I can totally fuckin rock the theme song finger pcikin style. I will have to record it and put it up for ya.
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Post by skellumriver on Apr 8, 2009 11:53:52 GMT -5
punchout is cooL. oldskool
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Post by ryback666 on Apr 8, 2009 14:38:59 GMT -5
yes, in most cases if you train you have a better chance of coming out with the win...but anything can happen in a street fight
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Post by villain on Apr 9, 2009 15:44:15 GMT -5
cool thread im honored Understand all fights will start out on your feet; you need to learn to properly throw punches from your hips and legs vs. your arms which is what most people do who don’t know how to box. Think your arms are a wet towel that you snap; everything comes from having a good base. Chin down, hands up, tall from the hip to the shoulder with the knees slightly bent. You always want to be on the balls of you feet unless you are throwing a punch, which you will set one foot completely down flat and pivot the foot on the same side you are throwing a punch from. Also you must learn how to move properly by taking the correct steps. Little steps while not crossing your feet. Foot work and the ability to turn and control your opponent by using angles are essential for creating openings. Defense is paramount, boxing is the art of hitting without getting hit (pay attention to the second part it’s the most important). Using your jab is essential. The jab is many things, think of a running back that effective uses a stiff arm to keep the defender from getting close enough to make a tackle. The jab is similar; you need to be able to control your opponent, set up power shots, and use it to move inside your opponents reach by doubling or even tripling it up. Usually a fighter that wins the jab war will have a better chance to win the fight. Keep in mind you main goal of a jab is distraction and set up the KO comes from throwing power. Once you become efficient with throwing your straight punches, Jab and Cross (the #1 and #2), your able to throw straight punches and not drop your hands when you return you hands, you can move effectively,(when you hit the heavy bag and it swings back practice keeping it outside your reach and following it by stepping properly and not crossing your feet) then you can start working on hooks, upper cuts, and combinations. Don’t forget about defense. Can’t stress this enough. There are three ways to defend punches, move you feet, move you head, and block. The beauty of defense is you can counter punch and destroy a lesser skilled opponent. In mma all aspects of the game have evolved greatly except the stand up. A lot has to do with missing out on the details of the sweet science. No one uses the jab well in mma. No one slips and counter punches either which are both extremely effective in the boxing ring, cage, and street. Mma fighters always move the wrong way. Watch the next mma fight and see how they circle, if you are a right hand fighter you want to circle toward your right hand because every time you step you shorten the distance between your power and his head. You also are stepping away from his power hand. It’s a little different if you are fighting a south paw. That’s more advanced. However mma fighters suck at the stand up game. I get frustrated every time I watch mma see these fighters make these dumb mistakes. Bottom line if you are a mma fighter you better have a damn good boxing coach in you corner. So if you are in a bar chances are it’s gonna be close quarters and a lot of people around. you don’t know how many friend he has with him. Your best option is going to be striking- a little different than boxing. You can’t do sport boxing on the street you have to modify it slightly. For instance you don’t want to bob and weave on the street due to the fact you can get kneed and kicked in the head. However slipping punches and throwing counters is very effective off the street short hooks and straight power hand combos 3,2,3,2 combo is extremely effective on the street and in the cage. The punches are much more devastating with the 4oz. gloves. In mma and the street blocks and head movement have to be much tighter because the smaller hands will find openings that a boxing glove cant due to its larger size. Which leads to the next point, protect your chin at all costs. In mma and the street its much easier to get through the defense so you have to always keep your chin down hands up elbows up and get great at head movement, if you don’t get off first you can always move and counter with short power. The best for a bar fight is randy couture’s style. Clinch and dirty box with short hooks and upper power. Working elbows into your combos are also essential for the street and cage. Bottom line mma would be much more exciting if the standup game evolved, there would be many more KO’s . Cage fighting is cool but there’s nothing more fuckin balls out fuckin primal than two dudes knuckling up to see who the better man is.
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Post by down ass chic on Apr 9, 2009 16:35:09 GMT -5
iloveyou villz excellent read.
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Post by skellumriver on Apr 9, 2009 17:38:54 GMT -5
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Post by Dickies on Apr 9, 2009 23:55:38 GMT -5
cool thread im honored Understand all fights will start out on your feet; you need to learn to properly throw punches from your hips and legs vs. your arms which is what most people do who don’t know how to box. Think your arms are a wet towel that you snap; everything comes from having a good base. Chin down, hands up, tall from the hip to the shoulder with the knees slightly bent. You always want to be on the balls of you feet unless you are throwing a punch, which you will set one foot completely down flat and pivot the foot on the same side you are throwing a punch from. Also you must learn how to move properly by taking the correct steps. Little steps while not crossing your feet. Foot work and the ability to turn and control your opponent by using angles are essential for creating openings. Defense is paramount, boxing is the art of hitting without getting hit (pay attention to the second part it’s the most important). Using your jab is essential. The jab is many things, think of a running back that effective uses a stiff arm to keep the defender from getting close enough to make a tackle. The jab is similar; you need to be able to control your opponent, set up power shots, and use it to move inside your opponents reach by doubling or even tripling it up. Usually a fighter that wins the jab war will have a better chance to win the fight. Keep in mind you main goal of a jab is distraction and set up the KO comes from throwing power. Once you become efficient with throwing your straight punches, Jab and Cross (the #1 and #2), your able to throw straight punches and not drop your hands when you return you hands, you can move effectively,(when you hit the heavy bag and it swings back practice keeping it outside your reach and following it by stepping properly and not crossing your feet) then you can start working on hooks, upper cuts, and combinations. Don’t forget about defense. Can’t stress this enough. There are three ways to defend punches, move you feet, move you head, and block. The beauty of defense is you can counter punch and destroy a lesser skilled opponent. In mma all aspects of the game have evolved greatly except the stand up. A lot has to do with missing out on the details of the sweet science. No one uses the jab well in mma. No one slips and counter punches either which are both extremely effective in the boxing ring, cage, and street. Mma fighters always move the wrong way. Watch the next mma fight and see how they circle, if you are a right hand fighter you want to circle toward your right hand because every time you step you shorten the distance between your power and his head. You also are stepping away from his power hand. It’s a little different if you are fighting a south paw. That’s more advanced. However mma fighters suck at the stand up game. I get frustrated every time I watch mma see these fighters make these dumb mistakes. Bottom line if you are a mma fighter you better have a damn good boxing coach in you corner. So if you are in a bar chances are it’s gonna be close quarters and a lot of people around. you don’t know how many friend he has with him. Your best option is going to be striking- a little different than boxing. You can’t do sport boxing on the street you have to modify it slightly. For instance you don’t want to bob and weave on the street due to the fact you can get kneed and kicked in the head. However slipping punches and throwing counters is very effective off the street short hooks and straight power hand combos 3,2,3,2 combo is extremely effective on the street and in the cage. The punches are much more devastating with the 4oz. gloves. In mma and the street blocks and head movement have to be much tighter because the smaller hands will find openings that a boxing glove cant due to its larger size. Which leads to the next point, protect your chin at all costs. In mma and the street its much easier to get through the defense so you have to always keep your chin down hands up elbows up and get great at head movement, if you don’t get off first you can always move and counter with short power. The best for a bar fight is randy couture’s style. Clinch and dirty box with short hooks and upper power. Working elbows into your combos are also essential for the street and cage. Bottom line mma would be much more exciting if the standup game evolved, there would be many more KO’s . Cage fighting is cool but there’s nothing more fuckin balls out fuckin primal than two dudes knuckling up to see who the better man is. DUDE... FUCKING THANK YOU... Honest-to-God... being able to read this here was a TON hell more interesting/convenient than in a book/wikipedia. What an awesome intro to further reading. Thanks-a-motherfucking-mountain!!!
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Post by boxer on Apr 10, 2009 11:11:47 GMT -5
boxing a southpaw isnt more advanced its just different. the biggest thing is keeping your lead foot on the outside of their lead foot. if you dont you will be eating some punches. you would also circle the opposite way. other than that its just getting adjusted to different punches coming and having different openings. i was orthodox before but now i go southpaw its alot of fun!
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Post by villain on Apr 10, 2009 14:54:26 GMT -5
get this book it just came out its got great illustrations www.amazon.com/Mixed-Martial-Arts-Instruction-Manual/dp/0981504418/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1239392274&sr=8-1its no coincidence the two best fighters in mma now are strikers anderson silva and rampage. rampage is the best boxer where anderson would be the best striker. king fedor almost got taken down by a boxer. never drop your hands andre. theres a ton more i can go into like fainting the jab and throwing a #2. when i can think of things ill post em yes fighting a southpaw is different because everything is backwards and a lot of fighters have problems getting comfortable with one. it usually takes em a while to set in. i dont mind southpaws, just gives me more of a chance to throw more left hooks. What I like to do is counter the jab with a left hook while stepping to the left (yes outside his foot) and then when he tries to square up blast em with the straight right as soon as he steps to you.
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Post by Dickies on Apr 12, 2009 1:49:32 GMT -5
king fedor almost got taken down by a boxer. never drop your hands andre. haha also, remember that fight with kevin randleman? he almost took fedor down, too. In a different way than andre though, of course.
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Post by down ass chic on Apr 15, 2009 15:10:08 GMT -5
De Le Hoya retires - Boxing's most popular fighter announced his decision Tuesday across the street from Staples Center, where a statue of him stands.
De La Hoya is retiring four months after he was thoroughly beaten by Manny Pacquiao in his fourth loss in his last seven fights. It's been several years since De La Hoya beat a truly daunting opponent. He finishes with a record of 39-6 and 30 knockouts.
he looks so sad, not only here but many times
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Post by villain on Apr 15, 2009 17:58:56 GMT -5
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Post by down ass chic on Apr 15, 2009 18:03:25 GMT -5
lolz
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Post by Nödferatu on Apr 16, 2009 6:42:56 GMT -5
WTF LOL this is tarded
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